Someone Has To Tell The Truth

I‘ve been waiting a couple of weeks to respond to these set of comments by Juanita Duggan. I figured  finally that the best way to do so was simply comment with the ugly truth.

 


You can get more of the Ugly Truth about Juanita Duggan here.

Prepared Remarks for Juanita D. Duggan
              President and CEO, Wine & Spirit Wholesalers Association and strongest public
proponents of stopping all direct shipment of wine to consumers
at the2005 WSWA Annual Convention and Exposition
              April 11, 2005, Orlando

WITH COMMENTARY BY FERMENTATIONS (IN ITALICS)
Juanita
            

Let me ask you the same question I asked a roomful of police chiefs in Albuquerque last year: What would you do if you saw a guy parked near a school with his trunk open, putting bottles of alcohol in brown paper bags, and handing them out to kids? Their answer – lock him up, of course. But you can only lock him up if you can find him. And chances are you can’t find him if he’s selling that same alcohol on the Internet.
Actually, if the wholesalers saw this happening they would like file a lawsuit since the guy handing out alcohol to kids didn’t have a license and was infringing on their market

            

As an industry, we have always understood our moral obligation to ensure that this sort of thing does not happen – that we know who is selling what to whom, in what quantity, and that alcohol is not put into the hands of people who are not supposed to drink. It’s the right thing to do.
This goes a long way toward explaining why most of the alcohol that kids get their hands on has come from liquor stores where it came directly off wholesalers’ trucks.            

And how do we do this? By controlling distribution 
and by requiring face-to-face transactions where IDs are checked by someone licensed to sell alcohol at retail. Controlling access to alcohol is our moral obligation.
I’m pretty sure what Juanita meant to say is "controlling the market for alcohol distribution is our moral and financial obligation"

That’s why you, the members of WSWA, have made an enormous investment in this message.
That investment in stopping direct shipment of wine to consumers of legal age comes to the tune of over $1 Million in campaign donations and hiring lobbyists who will work for anyone with a buck.

You have recognized the need to take a stand because the issue before the Supreme Court, before state capitals and before the industry is one of morality. Again – it’s the right thing to do.
Does anyone reading this actually believe that the Wine & Spirit Wholesalers Association would spend over $1 Million on a moral crusade? Or does it seem more likely that this money is an investment in the future of their business?

It is a stark choice between regulated versus completely unregulated sales of alcohol. It is not about the ease of a faceless transaction or expediency for the consumer.
This doesn’t explain why Juanita is on the Advisory Board of New Vine Logistics, and company in the business of sending wine direct to the consumer through faceless transactions. I wonder how much money is in it for her and her cronies?

It is almost unthinkable that anyone would advocate for unregulated sales of alcohol. Yet that is the very question before the Supreme Court. And when the case was argued, the justices showed an immediate understanding of what is at stake.
Indeed they did. They brushed aside the vast majority of the arguments made by the wholesalers’ shills who sullied the Supreme Court of the United Sates with their presence there on behalf of the hypocritical wholesalers.

Justice Kennedy told lawyers arguing for the wineries,"The rationale is sweeping." His quote says it all: "I just don’t know if the in-state licensure system, which is the cornerstone of the three-tier distribution system, can survive under your rationale."
You know in his heart of hearts Justice Kennedy was thinking, "God, we can only hope it doesn’t"

Regardless of what the Supreme Court decides, the moral questions surrounding our industry transcend any specific outcome.
Translation: when they rule against us we’ll spend even more money at the state level to convince money grabbing legislators to ban all direct shipment.

WSWA stands firmly on the moral high ground. So do the American people.
It’s doubtful that Juanita Duggan could identify the moral high ground if it she were sliding down its slippery slope.

Consider the recent presidential election that turned on the question of values and morality. Voters made it very clear they want to be able to protect their families from some elements of American culture. Just as they always have, they once again validated the rationale for controlling alcohol.Is Juanita making a comment on Gay Marriage? Or did she see a debate between Bush and Kerry on the issue of direct shipping that no one else did?            

Commerce has a morality. Each industry conducting commerce has its own morality. It’s not just dollars changing hands and walking away with a profit. There’s a choice to be made between moral and immoral behavior.
I wonder what form of commercial morality Juanita held strong to when she was shilling for the cigarette industry before going to work for the alcohol wholesalers?
            

In our industry, our moral center is controlling access to alcohol. And wholesalers are the essential element of that control.
Perhaps the first truthful words she’s uttered in this speech. It is clear that the wholesalers believe it is their moral imperative to control the wine sales in America. Why else would they be so against the ability of an adult in New York to call a winery in California and buy a bottle of wine they can’t get because no wholesaler in New York will sell it simply because there’s no money in it for them?
            

Now this may be counterintuitive for other industries, but alcohol is different. The fact is the economics of the sale and distribution of alcohol in the United States derive from our unique moral legacy.
It is also counterintuitive to the Constitution of the United States

            

If we depart from that moral legacy, we lose our legitimacy.
That horse has left the barn.

That legitimacy is the result of the American public weighing carefully the risks posed by easy access to alcohol versus the benefits. The system makes perfect sense. It’s the right thing to do.
The system does make perfect sense to a wholesaler and a wholesaler organization that is working as hard as as possible and spending millions of dollars to create and protect monopolies.

            

And that’s precisely why we need to preserve it.It’s not sales or margins that are at stake. It’s our moral credibility.Divorcing ourselves from the moral center is a recipe for disaster.
Again she gets it wrong. It is precisely sales and margins that are at stake in the battle over direct shipping. Why else would they spend over $1 Million on campaign contributions to any one who would take their money, on lobbyists and lawyers? Moral Credibility?

For some industries, disaster comes in the form of the trial lawyer. Here too, the three-tier system is our best defense. As you know, a class action suit against suppliers in California was recently dismissed. Part of the rationale was that our regulatory system prevents suppliers from selling to the public. It is nothing less than our industry’s liability protection. I ask you… what is the protection for a supplier who sells and delivers directly to a consumer, particularly to a minor?
Well, that liability is their license to do business in the state they sold it to a minor.

It is a privilege to represent you. You are right to believe in this. The people who stood on this stage are evidence of just how deeply rooted the support for this notion is in our country.
You can buy anything in America…even support for a clearly unconstitutional, hypocritical, anti-consumer, self serving position on shipping wine direct to the consumer.

The public supports controls on alcohol access and the public expects it. It’s the right thing to do.
She’s right. That’s exactly why such controls are in place and working perfectly well in states that allow direct shipping of wine to consumers.

It is not always easy to stand up for what you believe in the face of challenge. But in the end, our message will prevail if we stay true to our moral center.
This is very unlikely.

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8 Responses

  1. Steven Tolliver - May 4, 2005

    Tom, that’s a terrific rebuttle! Nice try on WSWA’s part to cloak economic interest under a veil of dubious morality.
    The whole argument that internet wine sales will boost teenage drinking is so ridiculous! Teenagers are impatient people. It defies belief that an underage drinker is going to fill out an on-line order form for a case of wine and then wait a week for the delivery. That takes too long, would likely be too expensive, would provide a paper trail that presumably their parents could find out about, and at the end of it all they would stuck with WINE, a potentially funny tasting drink that would only contain maximum 14% alcohol. Now, if they could order a case of canned Tequila Sunrises, that might be worth the wait!

  2. Donald Edwards - May 4, 2005

    Makes me laugh. I used to work in the call centre of a firm called direct wines, the largest mail order wine firm in the world (this is in the UK). There was no real problem with underage drinkers ordering wine. The customers were mainly late twenties and older, no underage people would really be bothered with waiting 3 or 4 days to take delivery of a case of wine, for a start it’s expensive, there’s delivery to pay, and you have to arrange for somewhere for the wine to be delivered. Which means finding a property where the owners are sympathetic to them wanting to buy alcohol…. which neatly begs the question why they didn’t just get the sympathetic parents, friends etc to just go down to the liquer store for them.
    Actually it makes me quite glad that I live in the UK where someone spouting moralistic crap like Jaunitta Duaggun would just be ignored.

  3. Jonathan Medford - May 4, 2005

    I think Duggan has played the morality card in her head so many times that she actually believes it. I am almost 23 and will be graduating from college this Friday.
    Growing up Lutheran, I was used to the taste of wine. As much as I enjoy drinking it now, I have to twist the arms and legs of my peers to drop their beer and liqour to have a taste. These are college-age people that are of legal drinking age. Underage drinks prefer sugary mixed-drinks, malt beverages, wine coolers, hard liqour and beer.
    Teenagers in highschool don’t want to order their alcohol off the internet. They would rather contact their friend who knows someone who is twenty-one. Hell, my friends used to pay the homeless guy outside the liqour store and give him money to buy something for himself. I was even bold enough to ask random people in the parking lot of a grocery store.
    What do underage college-students do? That’s what keg parties are for!!! If keg parties aren’t your thing there are plenty of people of age that might need a little extra dough.
    I would like to see the “studies” that “Divine Duggan” conducted. Did she ask under-age drinkers what they drink? When they drink it? How they get ahold of it? When the first time they drank? Have you ever approached a stranger to buy you alcohol? Do you know someone over 21 that will provide you alochol? Do you have your parents permission to drink? Do you like to drink wine? Would you ever attempt to order wine off of the internet? How would you do this without your parents getting caught?

  4. Jonathan Medford - May 4, 2005

    That last sentence should read, “How would you do this without your parents catching you?”

  5. Al - May 4, 2005

    “That horse has left the barn.”
    Classic! LMFAO….
    Agreed with the commentors as well as your lines Tom.
    The argument about kids ordering alcohol is pretty tired.
    In fact, the only publicized case I’ve heard about with kids ordering over the internet was a ‘sting’ operation by a MA State Attorney (? details escape me, HugeJ had a post about it months ago) where the kids were acting on the authority of law enforcement to place the orders…
    Amazing they persist with it. Though, if you think about it, ‘kids drinking’ is about the only argument they can try to put forward (even if it’s just diversionary). Who’d give a f*** about them if they said “poor us! You’re going to make us miss our payments on our new condos in Tahiti…”

  6. Al - May 4, 2005

    “That horse has left the barn.”
    Classic! LMFAO….
    Agreed with the commentors as well as your lines Tom.
    The argument about kids ordering alcohol is pretty tired.
    In fact, the only publicized case I’ve heard about with kids ordering over the internet was a ‘sting’ operation by a MA State Attorney (? details escape me, HugeJ had a post about it months ago) where the kids were acting on the authority of law enforcement to place the orders…
    Amazing they persist with it. Though, if you think about it, ‘kids drinking’ is about the only argument they can try to put forward (even if it’s just diversionary). Who’d give a f*** about them if they said “poor us! You’re going to make us miss our payments on our new condos in Tahiti…”

  7. Cathy - May 6, 2005

    That is hilarious. Even if teenagers were organized enough to buy alcohol online, they sure wouldn’t be buying wine.
    A beautiful rebuttal.

  8. Craig Camp - May 8, 2005

    Having attended several WSWA conventions over the years, I can say that little of the behavior you see would qualify as the “high moral ground” nor does moderation seem to be high on the priority list of WSWA members.
    The only concern on most WSWA members minds is moving “boxes” and increasing margins.


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